Exactly AS. And Phantast - it gives you a fast starting point to using the bryce materials on them in a hurry. You can easily finesse all the texture maps - add reflection, etc and make the figure really come to life using all the cool bryce materials. I can't believe how much people are bitching about this. DAZ could have just bought Bryce5 and started selling it right away. The fact that they made a cool value-added plug-in shows they are DEVELOPERS. That plug-in architecture has been there since Bryce3 - but they are the first developer to actually use it and build something useful with it. Look how fast they did it. I think their developers are going to take us into features in Bryce that we've been asking for a long time. Wouldn't HDRI just be a plug-in to the current rendering engine? You get my drift.... Scott