as a user all i really want out of these applications is for them to be easy for me to use. I like Poser and i like the idea of being able to create characters and animate them, but its the backgrounds and scenery that dont work as well in Poser for me...this is from somebody that just wants to create and make the things in his head a reality...overall i have to say it is a nifty prospect that i can do things today i wasnt able to do 5 or 6 years ago with the software and products... it would be cool if Carrara had some presets for skeletons, maybe this is a dumb idea, but..like i create a figure and name the parts like 'ankle, wrist, head' and there are already some preset definitions and parameters for that and all i have to do is tweak them to make them do what i want... The modeling is good, but my problem seems to be selecting exactly what i want in the vertex modeler..i do like Amorphiums idea of having a blob or shape and giving me some tools and letting me sculpt it..its a bit more intuitive for me...tho it doesnt come close to what C can do in my opinion...but its a nice modeler... Bryce was just over my head so much of the time with all the settings and options..but the fact i can get it for like 40.00 at DAZ now is an incentive to pick it back up..will it import ok into C if i create a landscape or will we need something like Transposer?