Well no one is afraid of DAZ Bryce and in regards to software vs software m'lady ynsaen...DAZ isn't in the field of producing this type of technology.The point I made about Sega is that people kept warning that they shouldn't do it because they didn't know what they were doing (and several failed game consoles were proof lol)...in the end,it was we who bought that damned Dreamcast and everything that came with it that got screwed when they stopped supporting it-the trick is that if this doesn't work for DAZ they will cut their losses just like Sega and it is we who buy this garbage from them that will lose what we've invested in. By your own admission DAZ has made many mistakes and I dare say that these mistakes are becoming all too commonplace over there.You can speak of Dan Farr til you're blue in the face but he's not the one making these mistakes...its the people he's employing,not replacing and obviously not supervising as DAZ truly had a name worthy of respect until recently.Say what praise you will of Dan,but when the head of a company chooses to hand his thinking over to someone else...then he alone is 100% responsible for every mistake these other people make.Dan is not the issue here,he could be the worlds leading genius in this field...but when you step back and allow others to ruin your good name then you have only yourself to blame. I haven't been in poserland as long as some of you and I may not have the knowledge base that ynsaen has to call upon...but I am almost never wrong when it comes from a "consumers" viewpoint and thats the one element ynsaen has not figured into this.People know DAZ which is why they're skeptical...people know DAZ which is why they think they're greedy...people know DAZ which is why they think they're incompetent!!Most don't even know who Dan Farro is m'lady so you can speak his merits all you like and lose on every point you make in his regard. Will DAZ advance or improve Bryce?Do they have the personel for the job is question one and when you look at the failure of Studio the "consumer" view is no they don't...funny thing,thats also the opinion of programmers and people who look at DAZ's business structure.Like Corel,DAZ is focused on Studio as their future...not Bryce.As for Bryce sites,I have visited a lot of them ynsaen and they do speak of stronger support for Bryce in the past...but thats the past in much the same way Sony is eclipsing Nintendo in the gaming field and Microsoft will eclipse them both once it develops a stronghold in Japan. Bryce at one time may have generated strong revenue,but its poser thats driving the industry now until something better comes along...and no thats not based just on a limited pov of only being familiar with a few poser sites either. Me and you have had some rowdy conversations before ynsaen...you know more from the pov of your existing knowledge base-but you often allow that knowledge to cloud common sense issues that in the end generally win the day.If DAZ doesn't like being seen as incompetent and greedy,then its time to clean house and begin a pr campaign to improve their rep.Its the common view of a consumer thats paramount and talking about Dan Farr and Chris Creek when most don't have the foggiest idea who they are won't make any impressions that you know what you're talking about.Its like here on rosity,almost no one knows who owns the place or who makes the decisions...go to RDNA or Poser Pros and you find that almost everyone does because the owners and decision makers are very active in their sites. As for knowledge...a quick jab...you do know all you have to do is copy your comment so that if it doesn't take you can just paste it back in and hit post reply right?You'd be surprised how many don't realise that you time out on long replys and have to start over...its knowing whats going on so you don't make mistakes and have to correct yourself or create unnecessary hardships like rewriting a long comment-DAZ doesn't know what its doing either which is why its making mistakes! Its also a mistake to believe Bryce is in good hands at DAZ,they did so little for it before when there was money to be made...why think they have any objective now to suddenly change things because they bought it??Studio is their baby...the only hope Bryce users truly have is that DAZ abandons Studio and maybe incorporates some of the developments they have achieved with Studio into Bryce-that would be the intelligent thing to do but who said DAZ was intelligent.Bryce has a name,it has built in support and DAZ Studio so far has generated nothing but negative criticism...would be a common sense thing to do especially since even many poser users loved the idea of a Poser Bryce combo--but again,would take sound business thinking to do that and DAZ is somewhat bereft there:P Lets just hope enough smart ass comments like mine might motivate them-support them and you're guaranteed they'll screw things up because they think they know what they're doing and don't!Get on their ass big time,call them names,point out every mistake...even ridicule them if need be but don't just accept what they're doing or they think you approve! And as for Steph...she's not so dramatically different than V3 in any case and a good morph master can get very close to everything that she entails!I also call your attention again to Sixus 1 as they're on the move and they "give" you their base characters for free in some cases...its what comes with them that they make money from and Steph truly falls into such a catagory-she would be so much more popular as a freebie and so much more would be made for her because more people would have her and demand products to fit her-DAZ doesn't think like that!!

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