dlk30341 I agree with you for the most part, but this is not an upgrade for Bryce, it's the same Bryce 5 I already own. Just hope they will give us breaks on any upgrades and continue tech support. I will see what they do with Studio before I decide how I will go with it. For some reason, some folks seem to think there is a conspiracy at Daz when it comes to Studio. If ya don't like it, don't download it and don't buy plugins. I don't even use my Bryce 5, but I may start again now that Daz has taken it over. They improved Mimic and I'm sure they will improve Bryce 5. Marque