At first I was over the moon in my happiness but now that I've come back to my senses I feel that we should all write in the wishlist forum at DAZ all that we want for Bryce, I'd even go as far as writing directly to Steve Kondris or Bryan Brandenburg. They do not want to loose the Bryce user base and I believe they will listen 'cos they'd be daft not to since we know the program better than they do. It's all just going to take time, but we must tell them what we need and want otherwise it will definately not be a good day. Folk also really shouldn't have a problem taking pz3's from Poser puting them into DS, then exporting as objects 'cos you don't have to do anything in DS with it apart from export. So it's basically Made in Poser, imported to DS, exported to obj, which goes into Bryce no probs at all. My only problem with the plugin I have stated before so I won't go over it again. 8) Catlin