Hey, thanks for the information. It is really surprising to me that MetaCreations would buy Viewpoint from CA, and then turn around and call themselves Viewpoint. Also it is odd(to me) because most of Viewpoint's assets were high rez, expensive 3D models, not the kind of tiny type stuff that MetaStream seems to use. Frankly too, I would have thought that Viewpoint would have been the one to buy Poser (through CA) because that would best exploit their (Viewpoints) huge 3D model collection. Very puzzling corporate musical chairs...