Frankly I think it makes all kinds of sense to get Bryce 5, especially if you've used Bryce 4 (which I have)and even if you have Vue 4. Here's the reason: I got Vue because I loved the environments it can create.....still do prefer the look of it to Bryce. But I also wanted a program that I could pose characters in and then import to Vue or Bryce. That's where Poser came in to the picture. So I read all of CL's "hype" and purchased Poser 5 (seemed logical...it's the newest and the cost is better than Poser 4!) So guess what!! I can't import Poser 5 .pz3's into Vue or Bryce!! I discover that a bunch of suits are pointing fingers at each other at CL and Eon. So I wait....for a year....nothing happens. I begin to use Microcosm and other innovations to create my environments in Poser and I pretty much abandon Vue and Bryce 4. Then all of a sudden Eon and CL create a patch and get to be really good buds! Now I can import .pz3's into Vue just fine. But you know what.....I'm not going to put myself at the mercy of any one collaboration ever again. Sure it works fine now. But what if I want to upgrade to Poser 6 at some point. Will I have to pay an extra $200-$300 to also upgrade Vue in order to be sure the importing capability continues to work??? Nuts to that! I just purchased Bryce 5 at DAZ for $42. Seems like a small price to pay to be fairly certain that I won't be left without a way to import my .pz3 characters ever again.