Pinklet I would pick Vue over Bryce. I own both copy of it. I have Susanna plug in for Bryce long time ago. It imports animated Poser in it. I still choose Vue over Bryce because of render and some of other cool features; Realatic wind effect on trees/plants, vegations, advanced terrain editor, advanced shaders, and it can import Poser/dynamic hair & clothing! Daz have long way to catch Bryce up wityh VUE unless they are going to drive Bryce into different direction. What direction will it go? Vue is mostly organic. I contacted with Vue team on a special effect I would like them to implement and I think they will put it in next version. I will have my $$ ready to upgrade VUE. LOL let Bryce die with Daz. If you want cheaper software that mean you will get some limitations. The price is good and cheap as long as if it works for you and your projects. I think MetaCreations gave up on those awesome apps is because of staff and support management problem. It can be very stressful and is too much to handle in a small company. Adobe had alot of outside developers to do the job and they have all budget worked out for them. Microsoft maintain separated divisions for each products they sold. It is reasonable for Metacreations to give up on them and sold 1 by 1 to each professional company who they think they can handle. I only can handle about 1/10 of the core 3D software with well memorized scripts.