I'm with rodluc2001 on that one, I started in Vue 3.1 and got Bryce just to try it out and man that interface is screwy, I really tried to give it a shot but in the end it was just too frustrating to deal with so I continued on with Vue. Maybe Daz will do something great with it, but if they want to support the Bryce fans out there they can't really dink around with the interface too much, and Vue has that time to add new features to their program as well.