The Dork and Don aren't considered by many to be very good. They lack morphs and need a bit of work to make them look real Like everything else, once you know how to work with them, the results can be pretty amazing. Dont write them off just yet. I happen to like the P4guy because of the ease of texture application and simplicity of body structure -- with Mike, I feel I'm shoving bales of cookie dough around sometimes, and the split-texture approach has contributed to the glut of MAT pose files needed. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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