Well it's like the difference between Brycetech's bat and Ghastley's bat: if you need a closeup with blood dripping from fangs and fur glistening in the fog you use BT's... but 3000 of them pouring from a cave at dusk would kill most computers. But hand-posing and -positioning even several dozen of Ghastley's bats is tedious. After 40, I started cloning and scaling in PhotoShop.... but that won't work in an animation. Massive is an incredible tool, but we aren't Weta or Pixar with their resources and render farms. However, being able to do something like that on a smaller simpler scale would be impressive. Carolly