An intriguing, thoughtful thread, to be sure. Perhaps the question is more a matter of perspective...this being 3d and all. I have always considered Poser to be a crossover product, a translator, between the 2d and 3d world. The actual 3d portion of the marketplaces, Daz, here, etc. really belongs to a relatively few actual modelers: the "Popes" of an earlier thread. Most of the rest are 2d graphic wraps and skins and back drops and such.

I suspect there is a majority of us who just can't model. Or maybe it's only me. Myself, I can glue primitives and morph pre-existing models and UV map and texture and retro-fit and so on, until the cows come home, but just the mention of XZY rotational requirements or the Setup Room makes my eyes glaze over. The closest I come to modeling is firing up Amorphium Pro and squishing around with Meta thingees or wax. To me the Rhino demo is just an excellent file conversion tool, if it's not the niftiest polygon count reducer.

I may be over-simplifying...but not much.

I gave up on the clothes thing a long while ago. Especially with the new, high polygon count figures such as the Vickies, the Mikies, the Davies, the Stephs...or wait, they're all the same thing, aren't they? Anyway, all those extra polygons are terrific for making clothes right on the model, pulling out cuffs and seams,skirts and collars, armor, melting toes and reshaping for shoes and boots, lifting scalps to model short hair, and so forth. Don't like the new templates, but remapping fixed that and I find though I'm 3d impaired, once I have a flat plane to work on, I'm off like a rocket. A few props--hats, swords, transmappable drapes for long hair, the "skirt" part of a long coat, or a dress, an arch primitive, and I'm pretty much set to do anything.

I'm a little "Blanche Dubois" about the whole 3d thing. I depend on the basic mesh to start off with and I depend on a smart hacker person to lead me through the cr2's once or twice...

But I find this particular world is just chock full of many, many kind strangers