Let's get REALISTIC here An integrated program will always be preferable to a user because it seems to be giving more bang for the buck - as the features and power of a program increase, the price likewise needs to increase if the developer is to stay in business. There is the rub. Curious Labs is suffering from that very problem. On their next release they either need to raise the price of an integrated package dramatically, or make it modular with optional components sold seperately. Or somehow get people to pay via "upgrades" for the more powerful professional tools. That is just a reality of doing business. So, this thread should not be so much about what we would LIKE as customers but what we might PREFER as an ALTERNATIVE because I'm like everybody else here and want everything integrated for as little money as possible. So the realistic choices are: 1) A fully integrated program that costs about 2 to 3 times the initial cost of P5 or somewhere in the range of $500 to $1000) 2) A modular package like this: - Base posing program with P4-type render engine - $200 - High end rendering engine = + $150 - Animation System = + 250 - Scene animation import/export filters = +200 (this is already in place) - Maybe additional modules for dynamics or physics or particles. The benefit of a modular system is that you can add-on only what you need without having to re-install a package or pay twice for the same thing. 3) Third choice is what is currently being proposed - a set of TIERED applications - and my LEAST favorite because it will probably end up costing us much more than a modular system, AND WE DO NOT GET TO PICK THE FEATURES in the high-end package. I, for example don't care if animation is ever included in Poser again, and am getting pretty tired of having to pay for it. With the tiered system, I'll have to pay for it at least 2 and maybe even 3 TIMES and I don't like that. On the other hand, I know many people who really want animation, but may be tired of paying for something else that they don't use. So TIERED programs are always the MANUFACTURERS CHOICE of components in each package, and a Modular program provides the USERS' CHOICE of components. So which of THOSE alternatives would you prefer?