bonni nope, he was refering to me. Cause obviously I'm a bad bad person :) Grey If a person creates a derivitive of my commercial work in such a way that it does not give the end user my commercial work, then they are in fact free to do it. The chance of that happening is relatively slim, as I'm a texturist and as yet there's no reasonable way to encode textures. In fact, I'd consider it a compliment of they do so, frankly. Who was it that said the greatest compliment is plagiarism? Twain I think. I reread this thread from the beggining. I may have reacted a bit harshly, but frankly, you irritated me by casting aspersions on Dodger. Mind you I think he's a cranky opinionated ***** but I respect his work and ethics. You I don't know. You will do as you please, and people will react as they always do. Nothing I can say or do is going to change your path in the slightest. So have fun, and enjoy your soapbox. When you get down to the bottom line, humans are nasty little monkeys. Sometimes they throw fruit, sometimes they throw rocks. Lyrra ps I'm not going to follow this thread any longer. Aren't we all happy now?