Well, unless you use Poser 5 and its complex and versatile "Material room" that allow many effects to be combined and achieve many different looks and styles, you will obviously have to use some kind of postwork (even simple basic layer compositing). If you are on P4 and PP the Cartoon modes (/w line and without) offer a very basic (and flawed, often) but quick alternative, so you keep it all within poser, but you have no ways to set or tune it at all, except by playing with lights (and lights under cartoon mode is just a world on its own compared to all that you could already have learned abotu lighting in poser :) trial and error. Sketch mode is heavily customisable with many options but it requires also a high learning curve to handle ti and bend it to the fittest of your need for both methods, also, you won't have any good result within poser if you keep yourself with preview mode size. you'll ahve to use the 1 frmae animation trick to rise the resolution first, would you then scale it back using a correc batch software to do that. after that, most preview modes can be used in combination in a basic layer compositing (watch my lame tutorials for that). All my pictures (tooned ones i mean) are basically just different previewmodes renders of same scene using very minor tweaking, and then merged togethers as layers. oki it is said bldly, well i work a bit much like that, but the basic idea is the same, even if i spend more time and try to improve it, you can achive very good results with only a small bunch of layers and very low skills (i ma a beginner, myself) i dunno the arttists you mentionned.. could you link me to samples of their art so i can see ?