Nope, no transmap--that's just the regular "eyebrow" material. In poser it just shows up as a separate material, but part of the head's wireframe--like the lips ferinstance. It should just map normally but for some reason it maps darker than the head material, coming from the same map. Did I say map enough times? Now, why don't you go buy vicky so you can figure this out for me? :) Rose I'm working up a tutorial for importing poser characters...other than this dang eyebrow problem I've mostly got the hang of it, so feel free to bounce questions off me. Or bloodsong, who is the reigning monarch of poser into vue! MaryCanary