You know as well as I do that while many claim them as poser consperacys often they turn out to be somewhat true in the end. Just wanted clarification. "Don't you wanna know?" Actually, not really, I'm more interested in other poser related questions (I won't ask those here, would be OT and inappropriate to your thread). I am sure that in the end when you have talleyed your results there will be a lot of discussion especially about Poser 5 and the results). Thanks for the clarification :)