You nailed it Whistler. Some women seemed to be really upset with the P4 Barbie becoming the P-5 Vicky because she is so much more realistic, especially with the right morphs. (Morph World for Vicky Morphs) But hey, I think they have done a real good job with Michael (which I don't own) and that gives women the opportunity for their own great images -should they so choose. But the P4 Clothes to Vicky issue may be solvable- using new utilities that will "Move" P4 clothes to Vicky geometry.