i have to repeat what everyone else has been saying, vue 4 is rock solid for me (Except for surprise opengl), so the updates that e-on has put out over time has killed atleast for me any aparent bugs. great app, great price, sure it lacks some things i realy would like to see, mainly flv export(flash video, www.macromedia.com) and gi, of which flv export would be a walk in the part to implement, sure thing i would like to see an even better solidgrowth tool, letting us create new plants aswell, but its as said the best scenery app out there and i love to work with it.