Picnic, I appreciate your response. My basic problem with the clothing is that there are certain items from the P4 clothing set that I often use. For part of what I do with Poser I need about 10 females and 10 males who look different yet are wearing the same clothes (think team). I was excited about Vicki and Michael because I thought they would allow for more diverse looking people yet they could all wear the same clothes. However, Vicki/Michael do not have the P4 default clothing. So either I have to give up on the diverse people and go back to what I had or start over with different clothes. Perhaps I am not creative/artistic enough or understand how to do it, but as far as I can tell Vicki does not have Biker shorts, Halter top, Leotard, Unitard, Polo shirt, Shorts, Sweater, T, Turtleneck, or Vest. Michael does not have Running Shoes, a Polo shirt, Shorts, Sweater, T, Turtleneck, Vest, or Muscle Shirt. At one time I held out hope that someone would convert the P4 clothes to Vicki/Michael standards. In addition, I am thinking about using Polyette/Bobby in place of Vicki/Michael. Still, having paid the money for Vicki and Michael I'd hoped that things would be better than they are.