i would love it,your one of my favorites on this site and my last 2 renders are possible because of your fantastic model. i think i figured it out though. 1. get figure worked out in poser 2. export image 3. open in photoshop 4. crop off the excess (corners etc.) 5. save as transperancy 6. put on alpha plane 7. follow the krahn's tut ? but how could you make the army on only one plane?? now im totally baffeled?