yeah well like you we all feel home in the fractal gallery ... i could have my images posted in the artmatic gallery, but i refuse, they all use artmatic voyager there, and we artmatic pro users just don't belong there it seems ... if you didn't use bryce with that gallery image, i must say its brilliant to do that in UF ... but the digital camera fractalized image is mixed medium :-)) look if a real fractal artist, uses another pic to flourish up his design, there is no point of putting it in the 'mixed medium' gallery we all are fractal artists and fractal designers, and use fractals as a basic of our creations ... and belong therefor in the fractal gallery if ya have a gallery in new york and have yer fractal show of the day there, then ya don't say, the rest of my designs, which are partly fractal, and partly bryce and photographic, are in the gallery in boston... anyways, most fractal artists dont look any further than that fractal gallery also i ain't designing stuff to get comments, i design for myself and share it publicly... going back to flash, photoshop, fireworks and illustrator now to create another 'fractalized' monster LOL oops... animation smile Harmen