Ooh, hush now everybody, Jack's finished contributing so the thread needn't be added to. Asserting my opinion based on incorrect information, eh? Well, that information was supplied by Jack D. Kammerer, so any queries about its voracity should be pointed in that direction. In his message (posted elsewhere) to explain his departure from administrative duties on these forums, Jack said that although he had originally claimed he wouldn't ever sell the database, he subsequently thought that selling it to Zygote and Curious Labs was in the best interests of the community. How very magnanimous, to go back on his word for the 'greater good'. Not so magnanimous was bringing the sale to a grinding halt once he realised he wasn't going to get a big enough slice of the financial pie. So much for the greater good. Yeah, very opportune time to depart Jack, just when it got to the nitty gritty. Of course, you're only going so that you can generously bestow your time upon others for the greater benefit of... Jack D. Kammerer, the Poser community opportunist, rides out.