Well what I was going for was the eyes and the nose. After posting I realized that the eyes are too high. The upper inset of the eyelids needs to be up, but I'm clueless as to what morph to use (maybe there's one out there besides what Daz as available?). And as far as the nose goes, I think the person in the photo mustve had a broken nose at one point. To me it looks like goes off to the viewer's left just a little. Yet again another morph to correct. dave