I have a lot of mixed feeling about this subject. I do not know where anyone would draw the line to decide if an image is more fractal or more some other program. Seems that since so many have drifted away from the idea that a fractal needs to be 'pure' (whatever that is), there is more and more postwork done on fractals and that has included combining various graphic software with fractals. I actually think UF is somewhat a graphic program, rather than a pure fractal program. So, it seems the debate will continue. Also, I have thought we need to have an Apophysis gallery. But then, what about those who take an Apo image into UF for a background? Same problem, I think. As for comments: Yes, it is nice to get comments, but sometimes I find the comments a burden as I feel compelled to respond with a 'thank you note'. I often think it would be nice if there are no comments, only votes, and no one knowing who voted. But on the other hand, this would be a rather sterile community. Many online friendships have blossomed here on Renderosity. It is rather fun to communicate with others of like interest. Keith, I am glad you mentioned asking for constructive comments. I shall have to do that. I have noticed a few do that already. Oh well, life goes on, and Renderosity goes on. Guess we should make the best of what is available. This venue is far better than the newsgroups IMO. Marion