Well, here I am again..a day late and a few dollars short. I just posted a XD-Bryce image (mostly XD) to the fractal gallery..BEFORE I read this thread. Whoowee, Keith! I actually agree with you on most points, but I think the fractal gallery has broadened it's horizons as of late. Actually, you're the one who got me thinking about my old fractal-bryce combos. Harmen, I understand your angst, though I can also say, except for the fireworks image, I can't recall Keith using anything but pure UF for his remarkable work. But, hey- let's all call a truce here. We're here because we love fashioning fractals, no matter the program(s) used to acheive the final result. The community spirit and support in this gallery is phenomenal, but I do agree that we need to stop the recipriocal back scratching and get down to serious critiques. Not that I don't appreciate the lovely and complimentary comments.. I do. But, I want the kind of feedback that will allow for growth and help me to stretch beyond what I've been doing. Sure.. I'm addicted to comments, too- love getting the positive input. It's just time for me to step back and ask myself why? Why is what you think (universal you) so dang important to me? Don't know, but I want to focus on s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g. :) I say all this knowing I- more than most, have a tendency to gush, but I'm going to try to be more discriminating in my comments. Probably will lose some gallery friends. I hope not.