Okay, sorry for the bandwidth waste...I did figure out how to include the image. So far the terrain is coming along... the gear needs help...I used nuski's greyscale above and modified it and got it into the terrain editor, but upon applying it looks like a vacuform object with the flat base plane not cut away yet...nuski, when I get to "adjust as needed" per above what do I adjust to get rid of the square base? hg guy