True, true. And I'm one of the lucky ones, who had no problems with P5 at all from day one (except, of course, the wonky frizz strand-based hair gets in dynamics calculations, which could have been prevented with a lower "rebound" rate). To me, the patches were just gravy... although Don STILL doesn't have any decent muscle morphs. I guess it's time to load the obj into Max and start vertex pulling...

Remember, kids! Napalm is Nature's Toothpaste!