Well, I guess I'll put my two cents worth in. I have only been doing fractals for a little over a year now. I have a very large collection of fractal programs; and I like to "play" with each of them. I love to experiment and try new things. I do not like to feel restricted to the use of only certain programs. If I have an idea, I'll do almost anything to achieve that idea (or as close as I can get). I'm far from being a professional, I do this mainly for my enjoyment. I like looking through the gallery and seeing something different ( which is becoming harder to do), and trying to figure out how that artist created that particular image or effect. Most people will stray back and forth on some particular tangents, but usually come back to the basics of their art. (The partially incoherent ramblings of a partially mad man!) William