Well, they do have a little bit of a point. I must admit that after Ive spent days on a picture creating figure textures, lighting, a simple prop perhaps and other elements for a picture, I then often find a picture in the galleries that is so obviously made within a half hour yet looks fantastic. Often I find the artists bought every single element within the picture, right down to the pose. Ill know that the figure, set and lights are products, yet I see comments to the effect, I love your figure or what a great set. It makes me upset that someone can get so much recognition for so much work that they did not do. On the other end of the argument we have elitist artists who dont understand what it takes to make a nice non-bought poser image. They dont seem to understand that poser, Bryce and other programs are tools, just like a pencil or tube of paint. Another form of elitist disposition is very present at CGTalk, where if anyone new posts a fantastic picture, they are immediately demanded to post a wireframe view to prove their work as genuine.