Unfortunately you'll run into this small minded-ness when ever you deal in a medium that depends on the human element for creation.... that is to say, you rarely get folks who will argue that 2+2=4 is infintile compared to 2x2=4.... Math and its friends the sciences consist of definitions and theories based on hard facts (okay that's a broad over generalization.... I've heard some of the theoretical math shouting matches... they're about as bad as 3 year olds shouting my daddy can beat up your daddy) Anyway, I guess what I'm getting around to is that as long as you are dealing with human beings, you will be putting yourself in a position where you'll eventually have to deal with someone whose self worth is based upon their ability to feel superior to their fellow humans in some way. My argument to these people who are vehemently against Poser Art or rabidly for it would be not to judge the tools but to judge the results. Any bozo can tube artwork with Photoshop, but that doesn't make Photoshop a tool only for hacks..... same with any medium... there are artists, there are flea market crafters, and there are cut rate hacks.... and we all can tell the difference I think ;P Sides, the good thing about poser? Your model only opens its mouth when you want it to, doesn't fidget, doesn't get tired, doesn't need coffee breaks, doesn't have an attitude, doesn't sneeze at the worst possible moment... doesn't upject when you want to rip out her hair and install a new wig or give her an impromptu nose job cause the shadow is falling funny ;)..... I don't know, one less human to deal with in the creation process sounds like great plan to me. ;) Wonder if poser will make a 'Poser Art Critic' so that we can get rid of this extra human too ;)