SOS - different day. The Epiloge site has a history of snobbishness and stupidity about Poser. As always, it's not the tool, it's the artist. Is collage or silkscreen or photography art? How much "originality" does it take to make "art" for Epiloge? I make my own cloths, textures, and backgrounds. Custom morphs for the figures. And sometimes I even use a custom character or two (not that I'd ever post those anywhere, urggghhh). But I guess because I use Poser for one step, between Vue for the background and CorelDraw for the clothing texture, and Bryce for the final render, I'm not an artist. The occassional money I earn making a print or a webspace that uses some of my stuff must not count either. Idiots.