Well. if Poser users are not artists because they don't create everything from scratch, then I'd like to issue the following statement: Do not throw stones if you live in a glass house... I agree, Poser is a tool, and I love it dearly. But I will not hear painters7photographers tell me that Poser is not art. Fine, then your painting is not art either, cause you probably didn't make your brush from scratch, and you went out and BOUGHT your paint! shame on you! then it's not art, cause you were relying on somebody else to supply your tools. and photographers should not taunt me for using Poser because I am quite sure they went out and bought their camera, and I'm pretty darned sure they didn't create the person or mountain or tree from scratch themselves. So how dare they make our 'art' lesser when they're just as guilty as us with using tools? I'm not putting anyones art down here, not the painters or the photographers, i'm trying to illustrate a point, which I hope you all got ;)