Oh yeah..Poser can get the realism effect. Only two that I know. Just think when Poser 1, 2 or 3, how the renders were then compared to now. Never know in the next 2 versions of poser (If so). How realistic the renders will be, that we will have a difficult time, figuring out what is real and not. Their would have to be some parts of the render to give it away that it was done in Poser. 1.) This was done in PP http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=692390 2.) Not my best. But done in P5 http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=704734&Start=1&Artist=Robo2010&ByArtist=Yes