I totally agree with a point made by kitty5 about the "ahhs" and "owwws" theres way too many. Ive turned into one ov these ppl unfortunately. i would love to comment on a artistic only basis, but this would serve only to have my work totally ignored. I think part ov the Above problem when ppl/fellow artists come here is they see " pat my back and ill pat your back comments " and very little in the way ov pure Art Talk, giving outsiders the impression we know nothing about art. When in fact there is an abundance of great artists here but also quite afew not so great, who in my opinion will never benefit from open and honest criticism. Nobody told Hitler he was shit at strategy and warfare, did he improve?...naa he walked round with his head up his ass thinking he was Boss Hog. he never learnt a thing from constant pats on the back. so when ppl see OOOOOH and Aaaaaah and woweeeee Kazzooooweee. on work that is basically crap and in need ov artistic constructive guidance I can understand how ppl can come to think of Poser as nothing more than Art in a Box. if we at least spoke like artists i think this " OHH POSER artists.....did you know we are not artists? " problem would be non-existent. On a personal note i dint give a shit who thinks whats art and whats not, i believe in freedom ov expression and freedom ov speech after all I'm an artist through and through. plus as an adult I find it hard to cry over silly name calling. i just get on with with my art instead ~ peace ~ E Kaos