This thread rocks, because it got me rethinking the way in which I render and I've tried some new techniques (for me) This is a 3 light setup. Only one light has shadow, set to 1. and a map of 1024. Depth Cueing is on. One light is kind of bright and the other is very dim with a hint of color, beige. It's out of the box, with a bit of color correction and of course, hair added in PS. -WTB