Doesn't it just though? Hopefully I'll see you over at DAZ later "today" my time TygerCub - I'm afraid I'm working for money today so I'm a bit short on time. BTW when I mention a model called "Default Guy" I don't, as I've previously been asked, mean "MAle Nude" or "Casual Male" or anything like that - the character is actually named "Defaul Guy" - on my machine he's in: C:Program FilesMetaCreationsPoser 4RuntimeLibrariescharacterPoser 2 Lo Export that as a .OBJ and you'll probably get the right internal names though here's an image from who3d.com that should help. Cheers, Cliff