BTW, read the original poster's comments over on the other site. They actually made sense: This is actually hilarious because I both have used Poser MANY times, and I have a degree in graphic design. Feel free to visit my website at www.sapphire-designs.com for proof. I've also defended MANY artists that have used Poser and Bryce and other similar programs. Here are my points: The image had no painting in it, whatsoever. The girl was a 3d model purchased at Renderosity. The dress and flowers were 3d models. The background was a picture of a flower with a filter applied. The image had nothing original in it, nothing the artist created herself. While this is ok at Rend, Epilogue is supposed to be about originality and creativity. This image showed neither. I'm not an art snob, far from it. I agree with both of you. I'm a digital artist and started out that way, and just recently decided to learn drawing and watercolors. I am, however, not stupid or blind. I can see what was done originally and what wasn't. I think Epilogue needs moderators that are familar with Poser so they can tell what is original and took alot of work, and what didn't. When you've used Poser as much as I have, you can spot hard work easily, and you can also spot a scene that was merely put together with others' hard work. Every Poser artist out there knows what I'm talking about. And if you go to the link for the image (http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=68015) it seems the image has been removed. I guess the moderators agreed with me. Poser is a wonderful program, but you sholdn't use it as an excuse not to put in alot of hard work. Ah well.