I'm looking at this from a marketing standpoint- and noticing how many people buy games- in the Millions! Game buyers are looking for instant gratification- and I think MANY of the people who pass through Renderosity, after getting a Free copy of Poser, and get directed here, LEAVE after frustratingly trying to get "satisfaction" from Poser models and renders. There is just TOO MUCH you need to know and learn, and most of them just BAIL OUT- and head over and buy another game. (I'm an "old school" renderer from the earliest days of 3D software- and I also own a 64 bit Athlon- so I don't have any real rendering problems- but I'm an acception, not the rule)... -But if you have a nice video card that handles DirectX 9 using Microsoft's High-Level Shader Language, you can REALLY SEE how very good INSTANT rendering can be- instant as in 15 to 18 frames per second. In another year these cards will be even faster and cheaper, and 64 bit machines will be hitting the Fall selling market even FASTER and CHEAPER than ever with 64 bit operating systems. Poser (and other "comsumer" 3D apps) will be exposed as Dinosaurs unless they get a good 64 bit code re-write. It is clear that a real cross-roads is happening now- the near FAILURE of Poser's existing market- small, dedicated fan-base at Renderosity, but NOT a LARGE future growth market. Same with what I think is the petering-out of the high-end V3 and M3 model sets- YES, they still sell, but the MASSES like the simplier Toon-Babes, etc. --It shows where the market is going, I think. TurboSquid could be taking Renderosity's FUTURE fan-base if Ol' REN doesn't create a nice little home for Big GROWTH software apps like GMAX--- and - it will give the current talented Poser model making community a chance to make some SERIOUS bucks in a much bigger marketplace. Just being realistic- I'm really NOT a big gamer myself. Just looking at what I see happening...