Thanks for the help guys but that does not seem to be my problem. Maybe if I give more details on what I'm trying to do it will help. I want to take the mesh from one character and add the head of another. The neck and head don't match up so I want to modify the head or the neck so that they fit together and then weld them together. I'm tring to get the both the neck and the head into the mesh form modeler so I can do this but I seem to be able to only get one object at a time even after using the group tool. I don't want to export the neck and head as one object because I want to be able to use existing morph targets for the head and I'm worried that the vertices will get messed up when I seperate them. I own an older version of MAX as well but I'm not sure how to do this in MAX. I'm used to using Ray Dream for Morph targets because I like the attraction tool. I'm open to any ideas. Thanks, Thorgrim