"how much is gone and not likely to ever be seen again" "The thing to do is to download it if you even think you're going to use it" Can anybody see a link between these two statements? The downloader's eternal quandary: if I download it now, the site might go over bandwidth and disappear; if I wait until I actually need it, the site might have gone over bandwidth and disappeared. :( BATlabs' free stuff is a case in point. Also, don't forget all the sites that used to be free, but have cut back or converted to subscription: PoserWorld, The Props Guild, Poser Fashion, Morph World...