Thank you, your experience confirms all I've heard so far - except that I have not yet heard anything good about VRay's use of Poser models. I'm assuming that they would be exported from Poser to a useable file format just as in Cinema, but everyone is carping about the poor result and close-up bad quality. I(m looking for as good a result as I get with Cinema before I spring for the new software. Thank you again.