However, there are a lot of potential variances in OS's, Browsers, security software and connections that play a roll in this. Some very specific and direct solutions to this problem have been posted. The first was to make the menu an imagemap. The new image and all the coordinates and links were posted. The second was to make the menu text links again and use CSS to size the text so that it works in NS4.x (YES, CSS definitely does work in NS4.x!), which was stated as the problem that led to changing the menu, and which would also work in every other newer browser, as well. There is NO REASON for Renderosity to cling stubbornly to their design decision when it's clearly causing people continued problems and THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE. I'm typing in all caps for emphasis, not to shout. But, damn, when a significant number of users say that something is a problem for them, is it really good business or professional web development to say, "Too bad, you're doing something wrong, and we don't want to explore possible solutions that would help everyone and work for everyone!"? Think hard now... bonni

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