sigh* no, pokeydots, not realy..there was one guess that was kind of in the general area of the 'mystery' product..but not that close...but never fear I have a great idea...so this contest will have a winner(s).....and I think this was a hard one cause in all my poser days I think I only seen 2 in the past.....and not like ours....although as a last minute hint I will say I seen it requested....