I just tried it with a bunch of things, and it's true. It seems as though anything with "fang" in the name causes Vue to not recognize it as a valid geometry, or maybe just not "see" it at all. Maybe as a child, Vue had a bad experience with fangs, and is now blocking it all out? Anyway, this is kinda weird. Has anyone told E-on, becasue I bet this is exactly the type of stuff they would like to hear about. Cheers, Mike