Right, but all the animation information is still there. Cases I've run into- 1) Someone has mistakenly created an animation, and now they want it back to a still. 2) Modifying a texture or object when the scrubber is not at time 0 and messing up an object that you wanted to be static throughout an animation. 3) Wanting to start a new file for the next take/scene of an animation (all object postioned where they currently are) BTW falconperigot- I just tried your technique, and it does work. However, CS doesn't really do what it looks like it is doing- take a look at what it does to the .car file. All the old keyframe data hangs around. UUUUUgly! There are definitely dragons lurking in the timeline. Markd