Thanx Peggy, easiest way to make a tut is create something and follow step by step writing it. I opened 3 programs 1 Bryce to do the steps 1 PS to create the tut images 3 HTML editor to create the tut on each step done Once you done one tut it's real fun doing more!! you found it waldomac? Great, guess you go for the challenge. If others wanna look for it it's at skoeter.com ;0)