Thanks for the replys. I realize its all a matter of preference but it never hurts to ask. I have the Wings download on my computer but havent installed it yet. Vue4 was my first 3D software and I think it spoiled me, the first day I had it I was creating things on my own. While even after 20 days with Carrara I was still clueless and thats what Im trying to avoid. I will still have to decide on TS but thanks for the help.