IN a rather pleasant discussion via Im with Shoshanna concerning the moving of threads to the Showcase forum she send me the following message, which I quote with her permission... You have a good point there and I will pass on your comment regarding the Product Showcase becoming 'cluttered'. We do have a Developers forum here (Topic forums drop down bar) and that may be a more appropriate place to move such threads to in the future, but it is read by very few people and I assume that this is why merchants seldom use it. "I have previously requested permission to let merchant WIP stay in the Poser Forum but at the time was told they needed to be moved. Perhaps a different forum (such as the developer forum)more suited than Product Showcase could be the answer. Regards, Shoshanna Renderosity Moderator." I would like to ammend my small rant and request that threads not specific to a particular commercial product, but still related in general to developing commercial products be placed in the Developer Forum as a more appropriate venue. Mike