Thanks people.I didn't mean to take over this thread though. Let's go back to Randy's. I viewed his in NS7 IE6 and it is the same in both. In fact Randy's is so nice I may even do one of those imitation is the best form of flattery things,and design one in a same fashion.I change mine about every 6 months.Just to mess with designs. ------------------------------------ I do have all those stats in iPowerweb.More than I can even look at. Site meter is just a real fast way to browse how many and where they came from.I't's a 2 click deal rather than logging in to my webhost. Also I wouldn't mind checking out that web building forum Lost Patrol. OT: If you go check out Site Spinner You can design amazing websites for purchase price of $49 USD or try the demo for a spin.

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